Sunday, August 30, 2009

The Strong vs. Weak Distinction

I just wanted to jot down some clarifying thoughts for myself on the Strong vs. Weak distinctions, since it can sometimes be a squishy topic. Theist, weak atheist, and strong atheist positions follow a similar logical structure as the following propositions:

EXAMPLE 1: THE BASIC LOGICAL STRUCTURE


1.1. I want to go to the park
1.2. It's not the case that I want to go to the park
1.3. I want not to go to the park

In this analogy, a proposition is given in (1.1), "I want to go to the park." When we negate that proposition, we get (1.2). What does (1.2) mean? It means that I have no preference to go to the park. But the question is do I have a preference not to go to the park? We do not know in this case. We only know that I have no preference to go. This could mean that I have a preference to stay home. It would be a much more strong statement to say that I have a particular preference not to go to the park as in (1.3).

EXAMPLE 2: THE BASIC LOGICAL STRUCTURE USING BELIEF

2.1. I believe Elvis Presley is alive
2.2. It's not the case that I believe Elvis Presley is alive
2.3. I believe Elvis Presley is not alive

In this case we have a proposition in (2.1), this time a statement of belief, that the King is alive. In (2.2), I have no belief that Elvis is alive. This could mean that I don't know anything about Elvis, and therefore don't know one way or another whether Elvis is alive or not. All I know in (2.2) is that there is no belief of Elvis being alive. This does not mean there is a belief that Elvis is not alive, as (2.3) requires.

EXAMPLE 3: THE BASIC LOGICAL STRUCTURE USING THEISTIC BELIEF

3.1. I believe a God exists
3.2. It's not the case that I believe a God exists
3.3. I believe a God does not exist

So from the other instances, we find our central theistic proposition in (3.1). The negation of that (3.2) says that I have no belief that a God exists. As above, this could mean I don't know anything about God, and therefore don't know one way or another whether a God exists or not. As above, all I know in (3.2) is that there is no belief of the existence of a God. This does not mean there is a belief that a God does not exist, as in (3.3).

What this means is that theistic belief is well, either theistic or atheistic; it comes down to either (3.1) or (3.2). A person either believes or does not believe in the existence of a God. However just because a person does not believe does not mean they believe in non-existence. The strong atheist requirement (3.3) goes a step further than (3.2) and requires that a person conclude the non-existence of deities.

For additional discussion on the Strong vs. Weak distinction, see Austin Cline's Strong Atheism vs. Weak Atheism: What's the Difference?

3 comments:

  1. Good post, but it seems a little like you're marrying belief with knowledge. It's possible for a theist to believe in a God or Gods without claiming knowledge. Likewise, it's possible for an atheist to believe in a God or Gods without claiming knowledge. That's where agnosticism comes in.

    I would break it down this way:

    1. Gnostic Theist: I believe that God exists and I know this to be true.

    2. Agnostic Theist: I believe that God exists but I do not claim to know whether or not this is true.

    3. Agnostic: I do not hold any beliefs on the existence of God and I do not claim to know any truth about God.

    4. Agnostic Athiest (Weak Athiest): I do not believe that God exists but I do not claim to know whether or not this is true.

    5. Gnostic Atheist (Strong Athiest): I do not believe that God exists and I know this to be true.

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  2. All beliefs are beliefs that something is true. Anything short of believing something is true is a lack of belief. In other words, one either believes or does not believe. The preceding comment suggests there's a middle ground between belief and no belief. But by definition lack of belief is anything other than an affirmative belief.

    Also, didn't think the entry mentioned a lot about knowledge, and was pretty focused only on belief. But stay tuned, I'm getting ready to blog a bit about that and faith soon!!!

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  3. Ohhhkay, I see what you're saying here. The only way to be a theist is to have a belief in God. If you are not a theist then, by default, you are an atheist.

    I think the "it's not the case" wording of your examples kind of threw me. Also, you talked about knowledge in the Elvis example. I'm on the right track now tho. :)

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